We got our money back from Paypal, but they are not forthcoming about how it happened, or why Paypal assisted the con artist in trying to defraud us. We are amazed it got that far, considering: 1. That paypal account had never been an Ebay seller; in fact, Lois NEVER sold anything on Ebay before. 2. The paypal account had been dormant for almost a year, used for trinket purchases only. 3. The CC Paypal used was cancelled by us a year ago. But our bank claims it was never cancelled (yet it was destroyed in the presence of bank personnel when we cancelled it). _Somebody_ owes us $250 in overdraft charges. I am going after Paypal first, Ebay 2nd, and our bank, 3rd. --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist