Another suggestion: can you use the same chip on the demo board and on your own? If not, do they have the same chip revision? There are 'known' but unacknowledged problems with pickit2 (uses 18F2550) USB connection/enumeration, but it generaly manifests itself as "unknown USB device". Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist