> I have checked with a > voltmeter to see that the pullup is on the D+ line in both cases. I assume that by now you have eliminated all probably causes, so it is time to look for the less probable and totally improbable ones. One thing that I would try is to cut a USB cable in half, reconnect the wires with the D+ and D- crossed, and try that. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist