peter green wrote: > its not as solid as a card system that can be checked in real time but > its pretty much the next best thing for those situations in which cards > are impractical (e.g. small buisnesses who don't wan't to invest in the > kit/pay the card fees, payments to private individuals etc) It sometimes seems that you have to have lived with both systems to be able to appreciate the differences. One reason may be that it needs some digging until you see "into" the banking systems, because they are not many places where they are comprehensively but easily understandably explained. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist