I went ahead and ordered the PicKit 2 Debug Express from Digikey along = with some other PIC related goodies. I think having the PIC16F917 demo = board with its debugging capability might come in handy as I learn to = write more advanced code. I've used the MPLAB simulator to test my code = in the past, but the ability to debug code at full speed on the chip = might come in handy, even if it isn't the target device. Thanks to everyone for the input and advice. James > Hello, > > I've recently started experimenting with PIC microcontrollers in a = > hobbyist capacity using the "El Cheapo" programmer and have already = > become frustrated with some of its limitations. A few of the newer chips = > I have are not supported, and that in addition to it being a bit = > temperamental has me looking at the PICKit 2 an alternative. More than = > anything it seems to be frequently updated to support newer devices. > > On the Microchip web site I see 2 PICKits 2 packages offered: > > PICkit=99 2 Debug Express, Part number: DV164121 > and > PICkit=99 2 Starter Kit, Part number: DV164120 > *_ _* > The are both the same price, but I'm a bit confused as to the = > differences between them. It looks to me like the only difference is = > that the Debug Express has a demo board with a chip already on it, and = > the Starter Kit has a blank 8/14/20 pin board for programing my chips. = > Is this correct? Do they both support in-circuit debugging in MPLAB? > > Based on that assumption it looks like the Starter Kit is the way to go = > if I want to program my own devices, and not just the demo board. > > Also, I've seen references to the fact I can support 40-pin devices like = > my 16F877 by wiring up a cable to a board containing a 40-pin Ziff = > socket. Is this true, and if so does anyone have a pointer to a schematic? > > Sorry if these are really obvious questions. Like I said I'm pretty much = > a beginner at this. I'm just looking for a programming solution that = > will keep my hair intact, and hopefully support future additions to the = > product line. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Sincerely, > James Linschied > > > > > > > > > = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist