Nice research,thank you. I did come up with http://www.copyall.com/ebox3854.htm price is 180$,PCM-9150 is too way expensive from this one. Also Ebox-3854 misses out PCMCIA too. >The way I see it is that there is a threshold where you move from an >embedded system to a small computer. This is definately in the small >computer bracket, but that is what you want with all those requirements. Actually I don't mind what do you call it,what I am looking for is a system matching my needs but the restriction of category between these systems is nothing to do with the types of interfaces on them.Although,most people will agree with you. Anyway; I focused on VIA's Epia Nano-ITX nd Mini-ITX series. They seem to be having the most features of all. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist