I have tried to post a message to the Microchip Forum, I have tried to simply send them a message to tell them about their problem with the PIC12F629. All to no avail. Need a REAL PERSON contact within Microchip. Somebody with a valid email address that actually answers their email. It seems that none of my passwords work, yet when I try to enter a new account, "that name is used" pops up. It would be fine if it just happened, but this has been happening repeatedly for the last 10 years. I have received the generic "we'll look into it" message. again. I need a REAL PERSON to contact at Microchip, as this will be my LAST time I contact them for anything. I will tell them about their problem, just one more time. ..I knew it was coming, it was just a matter of time; you see, I said before that Microchip would REALLY have to screw up for me to drop Microchip. Well, that day has come.. Now I can play tennis with that perky TI FAE, who is dying to explain to me how TI uPs can do more with less power, etc. Can anybody help this one last time? --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist