> Strange, I have a box of connectors at home that says RJ-12 on it... And you probably call the country you live in "America"? This is realy a common problem: people start using a term in a way that is clearly wrong, and gradually more and more people join. At a certain point you will have to give in (otherwise no-one will understand you any more), but at which point? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist