> I was just wondering the same thing, IMO the RJ12 connector > is ideal for the IDC end. It's cheap, readily available, > polarised and latched. OTOH it sucks as a target connector > for anything other than a prototype/evaluation board, but > that's a total non-issue as you just buy an RJ12 cable, cop > one end off and solder your prefered connector on. What's an IDC and why does an RJ12 suck for the target side? I would guess it is mated/demated less on the target side, so less chance of problems there. Actually my preferred ICSP setup is a Wisp628 (DB15 connector), with a DB15 contra - to RJ12 cable, RJ12 connector on the target PCB. DB15 on the target would take much more PCB space. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist