> > The joy of buying stuff in small quantities... > > What would be my options with bigger quantities? > > Gerhard Manufacturers don't hang up when you call them :) Cheaper too, ever tried to buy a windscreen motor new? All those winch & scooter motors come out of China (maybe India), but minimum order might be a container load or two. E.g. those little lathe & mills (google 7x12 or mini-mill) have the motors readily available as a spare part (12v, but maybe too big / fast for your purposes as is, they have electronic speed controls). Worth a look. Wheelchairs? Tracking down the maker is possible, but placing an order is much harder. A bit like Maxim, you can either get 1 or 1 million, nothing in between. You need to find someone who uses the motors you need, they'll be happy to sell you a few. Or get lucky in the surplus market, like the Oatley ones. You can also get them made to spec. I've had motors rewound (done a couple myself), same as transformers, you can get them wound to whatever you like. The RC plane crowd rewind CD-ROM motors for more torque. Custom made can be a bit expensive, as I found out once. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist