On Sun, 2006-10-22 at 17:04 -0400, Xiaofan Chen wrote: > ICD2 is relatively cheap as well but it is really painful to use for > bigger Microchip MCUs like dsPIC33F/PIC24. Define "painful"? I have never noticed much of a speed difference in the usage of the ICD2 when dealing with large dsPIC parts, or small 12F parts. Yes, if you don't do things wisely (like leaving tons of watch windows open, or the whole SFR window open) then the larger parts WILL be slower in use since there's just so much more to update. I have a feeling most people don't realize how the ICD2 works, and simply blame the bigger parts as being "slower" then the smaller parts with using the ICD2. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist