On Sun, 22 Oct 2006, Xiaofan Chen wrote: >>> So ICE2000/ICE4000 will not support any 3.3V operating part. >> >> Sure they will. > > The problem is that this is from the post of a Microchip employer > who is often quite well informed and give the correct information > in Microchip Forum. >From microchip.com: ICE 4000 - Full speed emulation - Low voltage emulation down to 1.8 volts (or device limit) http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1406&dDocName=en010052&part=ICE4000 And I've done 3.3V emulation with ICE 2000 myself. So his statement is not correct. I don't know why the Real ICE is being touted as the next big thing; it's just a souped-up ICD2. It has all of the annoying limitations of the ICD2 like severely limited number of breakpoints and instruction skidding. The new trace feature is a kludge that depends on a particluar compiler and requires MPLAB to modify and recompile your code. And I don't know what happens if you forget to remove all of the trace/log macros inserted by MPLAB before you do a production build of your code. -- John W. Temples, III -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist