On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 19:17:36 +0100, you wrote: > >> > Do all the 18F have the ability to support a bootloader? If >> not, how does >> > one determine if it can? >> > >> >> It SEEMS to be related to whether the chip has eeprom or not. If it does, >> I think you can generally bootload the flash. Otherwise, you cannot. Seems >> to work so far... > >what 18 series chips do you know of that can't self program? > >given that every second gen 18 series flash chip i know of is covered by one >programming spec and that programming spec is very similar to the self write >sequence i'd be surprised if there were any that weren't. > >the only 18 series chips without eeprom i know of the top of my head are the >2450 and 4450 and according to thier datasheets they can self write to >flash. Look for "Enhanced Flash", this means bootloadable and LVP. Standard flash means HV program only. Note that a while ago there were a few errors in the comparison table on the Microchip site - not sure if they've fixed them yet, and the '87x was mis-labelled as it came out before they settled on that nomenclature. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist