I do agree. Round is a clear drawback of this design, not sure why they choose that one. However, others selling square ones are not suitable for breadboard either, so I use short cables to adapt to a 40 DIP and then plug into a breadboard. It works, and it is very cheap. 2006/10/14, Denny Esterline : > > It's round. It won't fit a breadboard, it won't fit a sea of holes perf > board, and you can't put header pins in the holes. Why would anyone want > this? > > -Denny > > > > > Another option, they just released a very cheap adapter (I ordered a few > to > > test them). I bought some proto boards from these guys in the past and > are > > excellent quality, will tell you more when I receive (and use) the TQFP > 80 > > proto. Note: the description says 25mil but they clarified it is a > mistake > > in the description, it is actually 20mil so the right one for PICs and > > dsPICs. > > > > *http://tinyurl.com/yk3qjr* > > > > > > 2006/9/27, Paul James E. : > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > You might also want to try "www.beldynsys.com". They have small > panels > > > with several adaptors on each panel. Each panel is around $50.00 > USD, > > > depending on the specific panel. Give them a shot. We have been > using > > > their products for about two years or so now, and we wouldn't go > anywhere > > > else if these guys have what we want. And so far they have. > > > > > > Let us all know what you think of them if you try them. And no, I'm > not > > > affiliated with them except as a satisfied customer. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Found it! See > > > > > http://www.active-robots.com/products/accessories/schmart-board.shtml > > > > they have support for 64 TQFP, and also a very "creative" 0.5mm36-100 > > > > TQFP, see > > > > > > > > http://www.active-robots.com/products/accessories/schmart-board/202-0010- > > > 02.jpg > > > > with > > > >some EZ technology that claim to be good for hand soldering, see > > > >included pdf in that page it apparently helps to perfectly locate the > > > >chip. So perfect for 80 pin PIC and dsPIC IMHO. > > > > > > > > It is an expensive vendor, but at least there is some option (before > we > > > > get a better one from Wouter ;-) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ariel Rocholl > > > > Madrid, Spain > > > > -- > > > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > > View/change your membership options at > > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > > View/change your membership options at > > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ariel Rocholl > > Madrid, Spain > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > > View/change your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- Ariel Rocholl Madrid, Spain -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist