thanks, thats a really great idea. something I think I will no doubt end up using. We are in a similar situation with regards to the GPS signal and will no doubt end up have to lay a special surface cable to recover a valid signal and repeat it throughout the network. If anyone has any more info on this technique I would be very interested. I will have a google around later on for it. Mat > However....... > > The RTC can be tweaked in software to hold it to a much much better > long term accuracy. I forget where I read the paper, but its output > is compared to a GPS and characterized over a period of some number > of hours (and possible temperature range variations if needed). > > Every so often, an extra pulse is added to speed up the clock or the > clock is inhibited for a number of clock cycles to slow down the clock. > > I think someone was using the RTC's for underground earthquake > sensors in very remote locations where the ground temperate was very > constant. Complicated and power hungry oven controlled quartz > oscillators were not practical. By running a wire to the surface, > they could collect data and tweak the inexpensive RTC as needed, each > session refined the clocks accuracy until it could eventually run for > many months without any attention. > > The GPS is not needed after the modules smart tweaking procedure is > completed. > > Don't quote me on this, but I think they ended up with less than 5 > seconds of error per year and were working on a similar scheme to > tweak the RTC's clock to account of aging of the quartz and for the > change in speed of the oscillator due to voltage drop in the batteries. > > Keep up the great work, this is a great list! > > Art > > > At 06:06 PM 10/13/2006, you wrote: > >> > Last time I checked RTC's weren't accurate to micro seconds, >> > unless anyone knows of any which are? >> >>Maxim DS3231, +/- 2ppm, 0C - 40C (1 minute per 11.57 days) >> >>http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm/qv_pk/4627 >> >>Taking 50us variation as 1ppm gain/loss and maximum drift, >>the time would be out by 100us after >> >>1,000,000 * 50us * 2 = 100s >> >>A minutely refresh would guarantee synchronisation >> >> >> >>-- >>http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive >>View/change your membership options at >>http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: >> 10/11/2006 >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: >> 10/11/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist