Guess I needed to read the whole thread...it dealt with the ENC part... But the big issue of NOT designing with the latest stuff is of course, your competitor (unless you dont have one) is going to, and beat you to market. Ive worked at places where the data sheets are only half filled...where the pinouts on the BGA were still being defined as we were doing schematics....its a fun ride. Present design doesnt have any of that yet...... --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist