Altium 6.5 (nee Protel) doesn't appear to have that junction problem anymore. Not only does the connection dot not go away, but when you add a 4th wire to a 3-wire junction, it 'jogs' the connecting endpoints of one of the wires and makes -two- connecting dots. No question of whether it's a crossover or junction. Bad ASCII circuit art: (looks much better on the schematic) | . ____/| ____ |/ . | It also has an option to put a little 'jump-over loop' in non-junction crossovers, so you don't have to question their connectivity either. I'm just starting with Altium, so I don't have any experience with it other than diddling around. So I'm only assuming these functions are reliable, but I haven't seen any complaints about them. The package looks really slick so far though. Gary Crowell Micron Technology > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Mauricio Jancic > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:41 AM > To: 'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.' > Subject: RE: [EE]: Autorouting software, ELECTRA. Opinions wanted. > > There is also a very anoying bug in protel sch that never was > solved. It > gave me 2 or 3 headaches in the past when I was not aware of > it. Try it your > self: > > 1) on the SCH draw a wire, it doesn't have to be connected. > Just one wire. > 2) now, draw a second wire and conect it to the first one. Altium will > automatically place a juntion. > 3) now, you need to connect a second element to that node > (junction) so > start a new wire and end it on the junction. You will see > that the junction > y gone and there is no more electrical connection between the > two wires. You > can also start this new wire on the junction, the result is the same. > > Bye, > > Mauricio Jancic > Janso Desarrollos > www.janso.com.ar > info@janso.com.ar > (54) 11-4542-3519 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu > > [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Vitaliy > > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 11:52 PM > > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > > Subject: Re: [EE]: Autorouting software, ELECTRA. Opinions wanted. > > > > Shawn Wilton wrote: > > > Strange, what if you want to exchange one part for another? > > Have to > > > disconnect all the pins? Why not just select everything > > you want to drag? > > > That's my preferred method at least. > > > > Actually, this feature comes in very handy when you need to > > replace one part with another on an existing PCB: you just > > drop the new part on top of another (in schematic editor and > > in the layout editor), move the new part out of the way (it > > drags the wires), and delete the old part. > > > > Vitaliy > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change > > your membership options at > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > > > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist