Vitaliy wrote: > We all know that Eagle's autorouter cannot be relied upon to do a > good job, and the results it produces require manual tweaking. No, we don't all "know" this. I've found the Eagle autorouter to be a very useful tool. It is one part of the overall routing process. You can't just throw a board at it and forget it, but then again you can't do that with any other autorouter either. As with any complicated tool, you have to take the time to learn it properly and tweak the details for what you are trying to do. Once you've done that with the Eagle autorouter you can get very decent results. If you don't want to take the time to read the manual, several times, understand what each of the settings do, get experience with them, learn how to set it up for different situations, and instead just use the defaults then you're right, the Eagle autorouter "doesn't work". However I doubt you will find one that does under those conditions. Perhaps there are some that are more forgiving of lazy or incompetent users, but in the end you're not likely to get professional results without effort no matter what tool you use. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist