OK, this is what I get when I try to put *JUST THE HEADER* in to debug mode: Connecting to MPLAB ICD 2 ...Connected Setting Vdd source to MPLAB ICD 2 Target Device PIC12F675 found, revision = Rev 0x2 ...Reading ICD Product ID Running ICD Self Test ...Passed MPLAB ICD 2 Ready Programming Target... ...Validating configuration fields Connecting to debug executive Entering Debug Mode ...Programming GOTO 0x00 command ICD0083: Debug: Unable to enter debug mode. Please double click this message for more information. MPLAB ICD 2 Ready Resetting Target Entering Debug Mode ...Programming GOTO 0x00 command Resetting Target MPLAB ICD 2 Ready MPLAB ICD 2 Ready Entering Debug Mode ...Programming GOTO 0x00 command This is just the header, no target circuit attached. Ideas? I'm fresh out. ICD seems to be flaky as all heck. Sometimes it sees the header, sometimes it doesn't. WHY? I would really love to be able to use this darn thing, so if anyone has had similar troubles with a header and knows ANYTHING, please share. Feel free to contact me off list if you're too shy to reply to the list itself. -- Shawn Wilton (b9 Systems) http://b9Systems.com <- New web page -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist