Perhaps you should call them. Their "history of the LCD key" (which conveniently leaves out mention of NKK) has this line at the end: [E=B3] introduces the SI series of inverse LCD switches for avionics applications with improved sunlight readability and SM series for military applications with extended command set and environmental parameters. So I imagine they have a solution for the daylight readability concern. -Adam On 9/27/06, Carey Fisher wrote: > I started to use them in a new design (not the NKK ones, the higher > resolution ones from E3: www.e3-keys.com ). But then I noticed they > washed out (first color, then text) real easy in any kind of daylight. > Since I do mobile applications, these were out. Too bad, too: I was > looking forward to dynamic switch labeling on our product instead of the > customer having to use sticky labels. > Carey -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist