I have already said I will probably adopt the idea of using low voltage AC source for debugging - this alone may be enough. On reason is from a past experience were I accidentally put a TRAIC in the wrong way around and the 5v supply that was direct of the phase suddenly presented 230v AC to my PIC when the TRIAC burnt out (I was using a PIC at the time), this failed then my programmer died and finally my RS232 interface on my computer died also. I was using a 1:1 isolating transformer in this case but phase to neutral still present 230v when things Mr Murphy calls in to take a look. :-( I was worth it to see my twenty year old son jump when there was the flash and bang lol. But there are lots of reasons mainly to do with debugging for designs with different power supply systems than the programmer. _______________________________________ Feel the power of the dark side! Atmel AVR Roy Hopkins Tauranga New Zealand _______________________________________ > > Explain me at least one good reason why you need an optoisolated > programmer interface. > > Remember you'll never need to program a microcontroller directly > connected to power supply phase -or just to the earth- (for this job > you could disconnect the main connection while programming and pay a > little attention to the target design and supply ) > > The AN2432 from Fresscale it's a little silly one. What is more > expensive: building a bidirectional optoisolated debugger or to use an > 1:1 isolator transformator for the target board while > debugging/programming ? > > Vasile -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist