I like the idea of using low voltage high impedance AC supply during debugging, may adopt that idea. Would also still look at using opto isolation for extra safety. PS how do I make outlook us bottom posting? _______________________________________ Feel the power of the dark side! Atmel AVR Roy Hopkins Tauranga New Zealand _______________________________________ > Personally, I'd design the device to work of low-voltage AC or DC during > testing/debugging, then ramp up to full AC without the debugging kit. But > that's just me. > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist