> A tax is something you are FORCED to pay. A price is > the outcome of a VOLUNTARY agreement. > Unless we stick to english, (not newspeak and > doublethink!), this discussion makes no sense. No, unless it is a tax on breathing air. A tax on let's say oil removed from common property is a fee you pay to the gouvernment because you want that oil. Nothing forced, your choice to want that oil. And it is not yours to get for free, because it is mine too. When you want it, you'll have to (VOLUNTARILY) agree with me, and I have mandated the gouvernment to do that negotiation for me. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist