>> This a stupid (maybe) idea (long way out of my field) >> >No Idea is stupid Steve, thanks for the suggestion So here is my suggestion. Assuming the paper can be run over a rounded surface (it could be an existing guide roller) so that you know it is flat against the surface (i.e. under some tension), then my thought was to use ultrasonic sensors to measure the thickness difference between the paper height and the roller. You could have a number of sensors across the width of the paper if necessary. >> Light permeability >> For a lamp of given intensity the translucence of the sheet >> could be used as a thickness measurement >> This could work if the light source is self calibrating, >> allowing for the gradual degradation of the lamp. > >Anyone know how well this could be used to measure a change >of fractions of a micron? Yes. The way I would do it, taking the roller arrangement I suggested above, is to shine the light so it is shining along the tangent of roller onto a linear CCD. The roller will cause a shadow, which you use as reference, and the paper will increase the shadow height. Readout speed will probably be limited to the clockout rate of the CCD. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist