>> ALL *really* vast engineering projects require either government >> underwriting or total payment for, or for the original investors to >> lose out badly and be bought out by others who make it work, or who >> are in turn bought out by others, who in turn ... until it reaches >> a >> point where the economics works. cf eg Delta Project, Concorde, >> Shuttle, Iridium, Chunnel, Nuclear power, ... . > Someone ought to tell the politicians that. At least our current > lot, who seem to think that private ventures are the answer to > everything, and will > magically cost less and provide more. Queue up on the left for your > Free Lunch! :-) Any politician worth their salt should be well aware that the above is true. Finding a politician worth their salt may sometimes be difficult :-) I'd be interested in hearing potential candidates to disprove the above 'truth' . Projects of only majestic scope don't qualify. Projects that don't yet exist or haven't yet met their goals also don't qualify. The truly great ones of those will probably end up adding to the existing proof examples :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist