I was thinking of using HEX inverters and opto isolators that basically are two unidirectional circuits back to back. Works in simulation but do not know how well it will work in the real world :-( I want to opto isolate the JTAG programmer interface from the real world as I may otherwise and with Murphy's Law help blow up my programmer :-( _______________________________________ Roy Hopkins 22 Grenada Street Tauranga New Zealand 3116 _______________________________________ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist