> > So far, all known (to me, at least) methods to create force without > > using structural means require movement. > > And therefore energy > > Apart from magnetism. Which is a powerful and useful force, > if you can harness and direct it Reminds me of the bloke a few weeks who made a floating bed, suspended by magnets. Not a 'real' floater as he used some cables to stop it getting away. Bah humbug. Looked neat. Shouldn't be too hard to make a real one. Permanent magnets to provide most of the force, and electromagnets to even things out. Bonus points for adding a vibrating mode. Downside is providing a clear gap under the bed. The 'easy' levitation methods don't give you that. Makes sideways movement control a bit difficult. Given the chemist down the road had both 'magnetic therapy' stuff and a petition to ban transmission towers, I wonder it it would cure or cause cancer. And since my last bed effort was chaining some telegraph posts together (4-poster loft bed), I don't think I'll be allowed to make one. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist