On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:22:44 -0400 (GMT-04:00), Charles Craft wrote: > Looks like Zigbee has gone the route of USB in requiring membership > to use their technology: > http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=13412 > > "e. Developers incorporating the module into an end product > > ZigBee: This type of entity must be a member, as either an Adopter > or Participant. They must also obtain ZigBee product certification > if they wish to use the logo on their product. Product testing is > defined and straight forward. If they are an adopter member, there > would be an additional $1,000 logo admin fee for the first product > ($500 thereafter). There is no logo fee for Participant members. > > f. Developers incorporating a self-contained ZigBee product within > a product > > ZigBee: If it is contained within the product then this case is > treated the same as e). If it is already a ZigBee Certified Product > and can be separately packaged as an accessory and plugged in to a > PCI slot, USB port or other I/O by the end user, then no membership > or additional testing is required." Ouch! IANAL but that last paragraph reads to me that if I embed a Zigbee Module by soldering it onto my PCB, even though it's a "Zigbee Certified Product" I must still become a "member" and pay the Zigbee Gods if I want to use the Zigbee logo. That sure sounds like "double dipping" on the revenue stream yet again... Bluetooth at least got this right. You don't have to pay a double tax if you use a Bluetooth certified device as the manufacturer of the device has already paid. That was one of our considerations for using a pre-certified module. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist