A few months ago I attended a seminar that provided me a Explorer 16 Development board, thinking that it'll give me a good starting point. I joined the PICList shortly after that and have been lurking since then, Well, I'm finally able to start learning what I'm doing, and I found out that it is not possible to program it without the ICD 2. Is this correct, or am I missing something? -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist