> I almost got to that point, googling through the internet. > Next problem: how > to program a programmer. > I found how to do that, it means getting another 16F628 + > some surrounding > hardware. Have I got that right? make that a 16f648a. surrounding hardware is one 100nf cap. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist