Maybe a bit "Geeky".. I always thought that Home automation would benefit greatly from two-beam IR detectors across each doorway at about waist-height. If you can detect direction of passage, you may be able to estimate room occupancy, and then apply smarter controls to lighting and HVAC zones.. But installing these after the fact, and wiring each doorjamb, makes it much more difficult to do. In any case, have fun. That's a beautiful part of the country. I understand they're building a water theme park in Dundee. Lyle -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist