If you've got a spare 5 minutes to sign up and give your input on this little argument thats been ongoing all day it would be appreciated ...... http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/vauxhall/off-topic-discussions/282813-sparky-just-electrocuted-himself.html Basically its an argument over how RCDs work and if its possible to kill yourself on a circuit thats protected by an RCD. Cheers Dom -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist