I read the article too, Mike, and agree with the way that you read it. Russell's original post was incorrect, but Russell's last post corrects his original. The sad thing is that our government (US) has a propaganda group that will promote a contradictory paper of questionable science so the water will remain muddy. Ed >-----Original Message----- >From: Russell McMahon [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] >Sent: 14 September 2006 12:15 >To: PIC List >Subject: [OT]:: Neanderthals down to 28,000 years and closing > > Evidence that makes it essentially certain that naturally >increasing output of > the sun is a or the major contributor to global warming. > Stay tuned. Russel, That last one peaked my interest, but after reading through the transcript "Hank Spruit" seems to be saying that it's "rather unlikely" that the sun's output has varied enough to account for global warning. Did I miss something? "We're trying to address one of the possibilities that have been suggested as the cause of the global warming we've seen over the past, basically the past century. There are three possible causes; one is the climate is just what it is, it varies, weather is more variable than we'd like it to be, the second possibility is that it's us; we're the cause of it, and the third is, well, maybe the sun has increased in brightness. Can we exclude this? And in this review we basically argue that we can, for all practical purposes, exclude that last possibility. The sun really hasn't changed that much to have such an effect." Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/447 - Release Date: 9/13/2006 -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist