>-----Original Message-----
>From: Russell McMahon [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] 
>Sent: 14 September 2006 12:15
>To: PIC List
>Subject: [OT]:: Neanderthals down to 28,000 years and closing
>
>
>>From the very inner sanctum of received scientific truth - There's
>such a fascinating mix of modern science bizzarities here that it's 
>well worth a look.
>
>    Making things move by observing them.
>    Making things cool by observing them.
>        Heisenberg would do well at Steorn :-)
>
>    Neanderthals now down to 24000 (not 28000) years from estimates
>    of 100,000 +++ years ago not too long ago.
>    HOWEVER, these were the very last. When the died there were no 
>more. No
>    more recently surviving Neanderthals will ever be discovered.
>    Hookey Walker.
>
>    Evidence that makes it essentially certain that naturally 
>increasing output of
>    the sun is a or the major contributor to global warming.
>    Stay tuned.

Russel,

That last one peaked my interest, but after reading through the transcript "Hank Spruit" seems to be saying that it's "rather unlikely" that the sun's output has varied enough to account for global warning.  Did I miss something?

"We're trying to address one of the possibilities that have been suggested as the cause of the global warming we've seen over the past, basically the past century. There are three possible causes; one is the climate is just what it is, it varies, weather is more variable than we'd like it to be, the second possibility is that it's us; we're the cause of it, and the third is, well, maybe the sun has increased in brightness. Can we exclude this? And in this review we basically argue that we can, for all practical purposes, exclude that last possibility. The sun really hasn't changed that much to have such an effect."

Regards

Mike 

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