>> http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/livestock/dairy/facts/info_nutsbolts.htm >> >> Incandescent 15- 20 >> Halogen 18 - 25 >> Fluorescent 80 - 100 >> CFL 50 - 80 >> Mercury vapour 40 - 50 >> Metal Halide 80 - 90 >> High Pressure Sodium 90 - 110 Low Pressure Sodium is higher again. And a lovely orangey colour as a bonus :-) We have just had 100 att CFLs introduced to our market. About the same $/Watt as the <= 23 Watt ones avaiable for now. Utterly marvellous. Claim 500 Watt tungsten equivalent. They may not be quite that but they are BRIGHT and lovely daylight blue. I bought several and am also trying them as photographic lighting. Not ideal but useful. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist