On 11/09/06, stef mientki wrote: > > If you want to the fastest, you should use a bootloader. > I can even think of a programmer, that put's in a bootloader first, > and then let the bootloader program the rest. > But what the hell are a few seconds, compared to writing the program ? > Ok it has it's value in "trial-and-error-programming" ;-) ...and if you program more than one chip (like at some point I would like to do 100) In the table mentioned earlier indicates, that for example Picstart+ is a very slow programmer, it takes 20s for programming a 12F675: 100*20s= 33.3min while EasyProg needs only 13.6s, that's 100*13.6s = 22.6 -- true, not much you can save, but bigger the chip the longer it takes to program. Anyway, why a bootloader performs better than ICSP? Another completely stupid question: how could you program several PICs parallel? Thanks, Tamas PS: Olin, your USB programmer is impressive! -- unPIC -- The PIC Disassembler http://unpic.sourceforge.net -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist