Its been a while and I have been busy on the bench the last few days. Since there are dozens of people on both these lists who have purchased my K207 serial LCD controller I am posting these two notes; (1) I found a nice display at All Electronics . Their part number is LCD-105. It is a non- backlit 2 line by 40 character display made by Goldentech. The data sheet is a little unclear, but it turns out it is HD44780 compatible and therefore compatible with the Anderson chips in the K107. The connection is a ribbon and one end is anchored to the display. To connect to the K107 you install a 2x7 pin header and the bottom side (solder side) of the K107. The Anderson #117 chip is cognizant of the 2x40 geometry so that is no problem. (2) I started mucking withe PICAXE chips and the rule of thumb is generally that you are stuck with 2400 baud serial. But I found that you can put the display onto the programming out port (P0) and use the "SerTxd" command which normally outputs at 4800 baud. However use of the command "Setfreq M8" to up the internal clock to 8 MHz then that baudrate jumps to 9600 baud and you are set! ... well ... almost! The "SerTxd" driver is made to talk with a PC. Sooooooo ... you need to set the input type jumper to RS232/INVerted. I did this with a PICAXE 08M, but should work with any PICAXE supporting "SetFreq." You must consider with regard to the PICAXE and the Anderson PIC #117 each operating on the internal oscillators which are subject to thermal drift. IF, they both drift, and in OPPOSITE directions they COULD begin to show framing errors while trying to talk to each other. It was this reason the Peter Anderson created the #108/#118 chips using a 4 Mhz resonator which is far less prone to drift and is almost guaranteed not to drift beyond the PICAXE. So its on a chip by chip basis, but definitely worth checking out. There is discussion, pix, and some sample code for both these issues on the K107 section of my Tech Blog ... see the link below. --- cheers ... 73 de brian riley, n1bq , underhill center, vermont Tech Blog Home of the K107 Serial LCD Controller Kit FT817 Power Conditioner Kit Tab Robot Laser Tag Kit MSP430 Chips and Connectors Propeller Robot Controller SX48 "Tech Board" Kit -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist