> I think programming can be measured by a stopwatch. Better: for proggers with a command-line interface you can use dos comamnds. > But who > has the time to > measure all the chips (on which chip what programmer performs > better). It > might be an interesting project though to create a table on > wiki for example > and put experiences by contributors, like I have this and > that programmer > and measured the following times on those chips... Indeed, interesting. But don't forget to factor out things like .hex file size (some proggers do a small file significantly faster), PC speed, etc. Another variable: the pickit2 programming 16F917 code is fast, but programming the EEPROM is very slow. And the PC software does not auto-detect whether EEPROm info is present in the .hex file. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist