> Ok, flat taxes are KISS (which is why populist parties promote them), but in > order to make them "fair", (i.e. when the government fixes up the rough > edges), hassles in other areas go up, so overall it never is KISS. Flat taxes are bad for everybody but the extremely rich. You don't even need much math to figure this out. I'm in the US. Assume that the government needs as much next year (with the hypothetical flat tax) as it does this year and everybody will pay the same percentage. Bill Gate's taxes go *way* down. How much do the rest of us have to pay in taxes to make up the deficit? One simple (as in minded) fix is to have a deductable of $20,000 or whatever with a flat tax over that. Now, calculate the number such that the middle class doesn't end up with a *huge* increase. I used to support flat taxes until I actually did the math. It isn't difficult. Flat taxes hurt all but the rich. The fact that they sound "fair" doesn't make it any better. I also support removing all taxes based on anything but actual income for the same reason. Why should anybody be taxed on the market value of their home when it really has no value until it is sold? Oh well, rant off. -- D. Jay Newman ! Author of: jay@sprucegrove.com ! _Linux Robotics: Building Smarter Robots_ http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! (Now I can get back to building robots.) -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist