Tony Smith wrote: >> That's the beauty of VAT: one system, (almost) everything >> works the same, almost no paper work. No artificial >> difference between reselling and producing, between product >> and service. > > On behalf of taxpayers everywhere, I object (strenuously even!) to the > phrase "the beauty of VAT". > > Beauty should be paired with sunsets, paintings, Ducati motorcycles (but > not the wiring), women and those old PCBs with the groovy curved traces, > not the output of bean-counters, budget trolls and other treasury > riff-raff. Taxes have nothing to do with "bean-counters, budget trolls and other treasury riff-raff." This may be your personal view of it, but that has nothing to do with the tax itself. Taxes are a fact of life in community. If you ever tried to gather a community for more than getting drunk together, you know that there are generally some "community costs" that need to be shared. Anything that lasts longer than a hangover calls for /some/ rules about how to share them -- and already you're creating a "tax" (even though it may not be called a "tax", but it's nothing different in substance). It's only natural, and as such can have some beauty. Problem is few have. (But that goes for beer bellies, too...) Anyway, a sales tax system calls for a distinction between services and products. Hm... how much of the prototype I'm selling to the customer is service, how much is product? It also says that I can buy the $2.25 worth of components I put in the product without paying sales tax, but I can't by the $25k machine that I need to do that without paying sales tax. This also creates the necessity to keep track of stock separately: what was bought using the exemption (and in theory must be resold and may not be used internally) and what was bought normally -- a huge bureaucracy creator. (You know that you're not allowed to use a resistor from production stock for development, right?) If I want to get the sales tax exemption, I have to send the seller a document, which increases again bureaucracy. These and other issues don't exist in a VAT system. I find that a tax that works easily, can be done at home without a consultant, without even a specialized program, which is easy to understand and as much as possible follows logic, I find that such a tax qualifies for "beauty". Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist