>> You could store hydrogen over water with floating tank with no >> bottom >> or pump water in and out (lots of water) - maybe to a second tank >> or >> use a bladder or bag. The latter is doable but liable to have a >> shorter lifetime and Hydrogen diffusion is liable to be an issue. > Would the Hydrogen tend to dissolve in the water? Not to any significant extent. > What would be a suitable material to stop the Hydrogen making its > way through the tank itself? Anything with a decent density that's not chemically reactive with Hydrogen would do. Thin or semiporous low density materials allow Hydrogen diffusion at a distressing rate at low pressures. Normal party balloons will lose an appreciable amount of Hydrogen through the rubber in 12 hours. A balloon that floats in the evening will often be on the floor by morning. Helium is not as bad and the balloons sold for Helium use have less permeable rubber. A bit hard to make Helium by electrolysis though and it doesn't burn very well in most gases :-) Seams and joins are an issue for Hydrogen permeation - it treats almost anything as an open doorway. A well built tank of quite lightweight metal would do well enough over the time spans liable to be relevant. There are almost certainly plastics that would be suitable at a reasonable price. One thing to be watched is reverse diffusion of Oxygen!. Much slower but it happens. This is something the Hydrogen airship people tended to keep a watch on. Understandably. A floating metal or plastic shell gasometer in water would do a good job. It needs to be twice as tall as required capacity or to have folding skirts or to have a "slot" for the storage float to fit into when empty. Weighting the float could provide pressure if desired, but it's probably better to build it to work at minimum pressure and pump the gas. Gasometer description here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasometer or operating principle only picture here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Gasometer.png from the above page. Nice big one (larger version of one on above page) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gasometer_in_East_London.jpg Gasometers at the oval - large picture http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/Gasholders_at_the_Oval.JPG I had no idea where "The Oval" was geographically until I saw the famed Millenium Wheel in the background. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist