for information: I just made a new MicrochipDirect order. E ~1900 goods, E 44 shipping, E 365 VAT, E ~2300 total. That's 2.3% shipping cost (for shipping from two locations, but that's their problem - or do they charge less when I order stuff from only one location? worth a try next time). When I order stuff from China (OK, those items are much heavier) I somtimes have 100% shipping cost.... Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist