BAJ, On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 07:37:11 -0400, Byron A Jeff wrote: >... > The average person just wants cheap energy without having to build an > entirely new infrastructure to get it. I don't know about "cheap" - I'd just like to pay the same this year as last! (But then I've never been average...) As a point of reference, my last bill was as follows (I think it's gone up again since then!) All per kWh, including VAT at 5% (energy is the only thing that isn't 17.5% VAT). It's billed quarterly in arrears, and I pay by Direct Debit (these things alter the rate): 16.18p for the first 225kwH used during peak times in a quarter 9.975p for anything beyond the above used during peak times 4.331p for anything used during off-peak time "Off-peak" time is nominally 01:00 to 08:00 (mine is controlled by a timeswitch which has drifted!) To convert those to USCents: 30.257 / 18.695 / 7.893 The annoying thing (*one of* the annoying things...) is that because the first swathe of usage is at the higher rate, any savings by cutting down consumption happen at the lower rate, unless I can cut my consumption by about 85%! Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist