The VAT system is quite ok for a company, as has a tax number so that you do
not have to pay a VAT for those that you use as 'materia' or virtually
anything that is for producing something. But currently I am doing it half
way as a hobby, I am my own, no company. I thought that I can try something
out, if I could slowly become a professional, so that try to make a little
amount and then see how is that going on. If I were have money enough I
would invest in it, so would make a small company and would pay other taxes
than VAT :-)

Anyway, thanks everybody for the help, I have ordered from Wouter - ordered
more than originally wanted to, and pay much less :-)  I hope that you will
not increase your prices too much in the near future, Wouter :-) Maybe if I
order thousands of the same chip I will consider to do it from Microchip
directly.

Tamas


On 04/09/06, Herbert Graf <mailinglist3@farcite.net > wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 17:11 +0100, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> > Gmail address disallows me to get a free sample, but I they accept my
> credit
> > card.
> >
> > Destination is Ireland.
>
> That's going to cost you. The additional shipping and VAT will make a
> small order very expensive.
>
> > Is USA VAT free?
>
> Yes, with a dab of no. The US has it's own sales taxes that work
> somewhat differently from the VAT system. The "catch" is there is no
> "federal" sales tax in the US, only state level. So, if you are in the
> states and you order something from anywhere else in the states other
> then your own state, you pay no sales tax. I've heard you are SUPPOSED
> to declare these out of state purchases come tax time and pay the tax,
> but barely anyone does.
>
> > So you do not have to pay anything
> > when you order from Microchip? Not even customs tax or something like
> that?
>
> Generally how most online stores in the states do things is as follows:
>
> - postage - dependant on your location, for something like ICs, $8 in
> the states, $16 to elsewhere in north america, $25+ outside of North
> America are good ballpark figures. Postage depends largely on the weight
> of the package, and to some extent the size. With things like ICs you
> can order many hundreds before postage starts to go up from the base
> rate much.
>
> - handling - some stores charge you a little extra if your order is "too
> small". Digikey is a good example. If your total comes to less then
> $32.50 CND they tack on an $8 handling charge. Don't know if MChip does
> something similar.
>
> - taxes - this depends on where YOU are. In the states, zero, unless the
> store is in the same state as you, in which case your states' sales tax.
> For Canada it's GST/6% (and add a small brokerage charge dependent on
> which carrier you choose. USPS/Canada Post is $5. Fedex charges $7. UPS
> charges $30+, and yes, that's NOT a typo. Guess what carrier I NEVER
> use). For Europe it's VAT, I'm not aware if you Europeans get charged a
> brokerage fee.
>
> So, the crux of it is don't bother with small orders. The
> charges/taxes/fees can easily double the cost of your order. For orders
> to the states I usually set a minimum of about $75, if it isn't $75 I
> don't order it. For elsewhere in the world my limit is higher, at least
> $100 before I place an order.
>
> TTYL
>
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