>> You could ride a bike to the train. FWIW, I almost always take the train to trade shows and such in San Francisco. Even if I drive to the trains station and pay for parking there, the train ticket plus parking is likely to be less $ than merely PARKING in SF. The train ride is somewhat longer IF there are no traffic problems, and it's about a mile to Moscone from the SF trains station (some shows provide shuttle buses, but they tend to be timed inconveniently.) Driving and parking in the city can be extremely stressful... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist