"What can be shipped in the FedEx large pak ?" A few tiny 18F1320's and a whole lot of empty I received some with date code 0631 and they work fine in the PS+. Microchip said they couldn't guarantee what Thailand would send, but as it turns out 0631 isn't that long ago, and they work so must be rev D0 or better. I've also asked Arrow if I can specify what rev I can indent, but they can't guarantee either. Which is a bit of a bugger because I believe the Consumer Act doesn't cover most business-business transactions, and neither of us want to be stuck with unusable PICs (unless I buy another programmer, but I'm happy with what I got and it's not my fault some 1320s don't program) Oh well, at least I've got the two boards working sooner rather than later, and that's what's important this week -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist