Yes Demming was brilliant. AGSC On 2006-Aug 21, at 12:56hrs PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Russell: I think the article is an example but not the reason for Toyota's strength. In my opinion it was that Japanese companies listened to Deming. Note that Deming developed his ideas by observing the U.S. auto makers, but they would not listen to him, now they are paying for that mistake. For more details see: http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/Learning.shtml#Important Have Fun, Brooke Clarke -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AGSC Augustus Gustavius Salvatore Calabrese 4337 Raleigh Street Denver, CO 720 222 1309 303 908 7716 cell adding " spam2006 " bypasses my spam blocker. Please place in the text or at the END of the subject line. ( i am hard to reach by phone ) All ideas, text, drawings and audio , that are originated by me, and included with this signature are to be deemed to be released to the public domain as of the date of this communication . AGSC ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist