> I still use microsoft's qb4.5 > Then I use it in dosbox if it has problems running on > different winxp computers. > Ray Track down a copy of PDS v7.1. The 'pro' version of QB. Once reason is that it can do overlays, meaning you can write really big programs. VB-DOS has a better compiler too. MS learn that this ate into the C market, and didn't make the same mistake with VB. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist