^ I want a device that does not work unless the attacker is " kissing close" and the device can be operated by any knucklehead, including the weak, the timid, the pacifistic. Maybe it attacks on contact unless told to " back off, Electro ! " AGSC ^ On 2006-Aug 16, at 09:12hrs AM, Russell McMahon wrote: >> Does anyone make devices like this ? > yeah, they are known as a "Tazer" and in most countries are outlawed > except > for use by the police. A Tazer is "less lethal" (than eg a Magnum 38), not non-lethal. Inflatable Sumo suits probably come closer :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AGSC Augustus Gustavius Salvatore Calabrese 4337 Raleigh Street Denver, CO 720 222 1309 303 908 7716 cell adding " spam2006 " bypasses my spam blocker. Please place in the text or at the END of the subject line. ( i am hard to reach by phone ) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist