> > > > Oscilloscope load is typically of the order of 1 Mohm and 10 pF. It > > can affect oscillator operation under marginal conditions > but usually Depends on the probe type and brand (quality). Also some dependence on how the probe has been treated over its lifetime. X1 probes can be as low as 100kOhm and in excess of 50pf for cheap crap probes but should be 1M || 20pf (or lower) X10 probes are typically 10M || 15pF Active FET input probes (home made or store bought) can have very much higher input impedance and ultra low capacitance, on the order of 10s of pA or better. Looking at a crystal oscillator, a x1 probe will probably shift the crystal's operating point. A x10 may still shift the crystal but it is a little bit less likely, especially if you solder on short test wires for the signal and also a loop for the ground sleeve on the probe. Don't clip on and don't use the 6" ground lead. And active probe with FET input is much less likely to cause a shift or othewise affect the crystal. Rob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist